The 6th Editon "Leak": Seek's Take On The Rules

Well thanks to one of the denizens of the Craftworld, thanks dude, I have been able to start reading over the supposed leaked rules of 6^th Edition. I have been slowly reading the rulebook in all its rough drafty goodness for the past week. I have been holding off making comments and throwing in my 2 cents about them, mainly because I wanted to get a decent grasp of the fundamental changes in how things work.

Overall I like the new edition. This is the Warhammer 40K I want to play. It has elements from just about all the previous editions. I have played since the tail end of Rogue Trader with a slight break, skipping 4^th but still familiar with it, and I see elements from 2^nd edition on. I like the changes and additions.

The real big difference is the turn order. Movement, Assault, Shooting and Consolidation. This is a major departure from the traditional turn for pretty much any edition of 40K. It bears resemblance to Warhammer Fantasy. Charging before shooting. It would also appear, if I read the rules correctly, the ban on assaulting after a deep strike is gone. These things combined really changes the dynamic of the game.

The example I used to describe it while talking with OST, The Judge and Samsquatch Monster referred back to my Dark Eldar Webway list. Flee models add 2 inches onto their moment. This gives them a run or charge move of 16 inches. Granted this is shy of the possibly 18 inches possible in 5^th edition, but it gives you a static distance. A unit of Wyches coming out of a webway portal can just charge strait into combat in a radius of 16 inches around the portal. I am sure there will be revisions in the final version and I may be interpreting the rules wrong, but that’s what happens when a new edition comes out.

I really like how shooting has changed. The addition of the Evasion value makes fast moving armies hard to hit and despite vehicles being tough to kill makes your shots count on stationary targets more. Shooting can be very devastating as well, so shooting armies like the Tau are back in the game. You don’t need a insanely good ballistic skill anymore to hit things effectively. The balance is back, at least at first glance. The game is much more tactical. The reintroduction of reactions is nice. Overwatch, my favorite rule from 2^nd edition, is back. Elements like this add depth and give armies a chance to go down with a fight rather than getting wiped from the table after one assault phase.

I will be talking more about this rule set in the coming weeks as I read through them. I personally think they are pretty legit. OST and I have been discussing how legit they are and gleaning information from multiple sources points to this st being very legit.

I am also looking forward to the update coming in February for the Tyranids. Phil Kelley has eluded to a new unit and kit for the Nids. Finally a tervigon that also shares a kit with a new unit the Nids have needed. A transport. More on that later

Until next time.....................

Blood Runs, Anger Rises, Death Wakes, War Calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eldar Rumors

SO its far off and likely going to be in 6th edition, but there are some murmurs around the web.  Granted you have to take them with a grain of salt the size of a truck, but some sound cool and I know I would like to see them. I found this on Heresy Online.  The local "experts" did not give it much credit, but I found the forum monkeys generally just hate on everything. so here they are.

Eldar Rumors; Plastic Vampyre and Additional Aspects

Eldar are something I am sure that many people are waiting for any word on, so this little gem appeared. The highlight in my book is the 2 additional aspect warrior types and the plastic vampyre.


Please remember that these rumors are very early still, so please take with a some salt.

via RandomThoughts

Eldar Storm Guardians come in boxes of 8 with a min of 10...

response from ghost21
expect it to change(unit size); 8 to a squad min

via ghost21
plastic vampyre,
solitare,
dragon riders,
possibly exodite character
and 2 additional aspect warrior types

I think the plastic Vampyre is an viable option or even a super heavy tank of some sort.  Given the rumors that 6th edition will have super heavy rules as part of the main book, it makes sense to have at least 1 super heavy for the races that have vehicles of a decent cost in plastic.
Storm Guardians seem viable as a re-release but since they sell them now unless they are redesigning the guardian models it makes no sense.
I think additional Aspects can be assumed.  I would think Shadow Specters or 2 Aspects which share a new plastic kit would make sense from a model release perspective.
The Dragon riders and an Exodite character harken back to Rogue Trader and 2nd edition.  If GW wants to sell models we can expect new units and since we have not seen a lot of Exodites at all this I think is viable.  Also given the rumored focus 6th edition is going to have on the Eldar expanding on the race makes sense.
This would also lend some credence to the return of everbodys favorite 2nd edition killing machine the Harlequin Solitaire.  If its the end times I can see the Harlequins getting a face lift and the Solitaire being put back in.

So next time I will have an update about the Kabal Of Da Big Teef.  I have some pictures of my half done Battle Wagon and the 80% complete "TruK".  I have an Idea about doing some "Orkubi", we will see if I can make it work.

Until then...............

Blood Runs, Anger Rises, Death Wakes, War Calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG! Craftworld Eldar Rumors

Well Fresh from BOLS and Stickmonkey we have our first official, I guess as official as rumors can be, Rumors for a new Eldar codex.  Of fourse as all other rumors are pointing to 6th edition soon this baby will be the first or second codex in the new addition.  It even 50% is true I will have to buy a bunch of new Eldar.  so here ya go.

Eldar mid to late 2012. Possibly 1st or 2nd official 6 ed codex

Guardians being redone. Will include new weapons platform and storm guardian bits.

Avatar getting new fine cast version with weapon options (spear/sword) not as big as FW model, but larger than current.

Lots of new mech options. Jump pack/jet options for walkers similar to new FW models, but unclear if this is new model or upgrade to current model. Upgrade packs don't seem likely, and current model is decent, so I have my doubts about this rumor completely.

New tank options...built on wave serpent/falcon chassis still. Hydra like flak turret, Bonuses against flyers and skimmers. Dcannon tank. And some pulse cannon monster tank...scorpion?

New jet bikes and vypers.

New warlock sculpts.

New aspect sculpts, aspects still likely fine cast.

Some sort of shimmershield device. Portable cover save for a unit, but static once deployed...model in design for it. Sounds fishy to me? But the de have the portal...who knows, I say unlikely.

From obvious dept comes the nightwing and some form of bomber. Neither look at all like de ships, or existing FW. Definitely eldar.

Drop pod of some sort that can carry 20 troops, 10 wraith guard, or 1 wraith lord. Deploys as firebase that has higher cover rating for guardians. Sounds like a bastion that drops into play with a weapons platform attached. Not sure I buy into this rumor completely, it seems too complex the way it's been described. And I never saw any evidence of this in design before.

Cheers. Still super long off, though. Have your salt handy. 


I like some of these.  The last one would be nice and really add a WTF factor to dealing with an army most players already don't know how to deal with.  SO what are your thoughts?



Until next time................

Blood Runs, Anger Rises, Death Wakes, War Calls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!! 

More 6th Edition Rumors.

So I was going through my blog roll, which is very big, and catching up on posts. I read some very cool and somewhat unbelievable rumors over on Faeit 212. It would seem he has an inside source that has some pretty fantastic rumors. I particularly like the one about the Eldar being the poster Xenos for 6^th edition. I also like the one about Matt Ward going bye bye. So here they are in all their unbelievable glory.

via DrBored
Fat, massive, toadacious blocks of salt with these, guys. I mean huge. Moon sized. Like, if the moon was the size of the sun, then they would be moon sized blocks of salt that you should take, but they're more like sun-sized blocks of salt. I didn't believe them when I heard them second hand, but here they are.

As we get towards 6th edition, some things are rumored to be changing. White Dwarf is rumored to be going back to what they had before, with more battle reports and painting how-tos and less advertisements. Sisters of Battle is the poster child for the 'White Dwarf Codex' which may be getting more full-on Codices in the future depending on popularity. One such example would be for the Chaos Legions Codex, which would have a core, and then White Dwarf additions for other Legions as the months progress.

Oh by the way, Chaos Legions by March 1012 and 6th edition by October 2012, which will feature Eldar as the poster child. Heavy Xenos influence for 6th edition, including the long-awaited Tau update.

Here's a doozy. Fluff changes. (prepare for heavy summary) We're moving on from the 41st millennium into the 42nd. Yup. Here's the rumor: mankind's days are really waning. They're heading down the crapper fast and xenos, especially Necrons, are coming into quite the threat. Well, mankind just doesn't have the power, and now Necrons are threatening Chaos, and the Chaos forces are like 'well wtf guyz'. So, Chaos has to fight across the galaxy against the enemies that mankind were fighting against, perhaps even allying with loyalist forces against a common foe. This will be expanded on in the coming Codices, including Necron and Chaos Legions, which should set up for the big fluff change in 6th edition. Some of the rest sounded more like wish, opinion, and extrapolation; Void Dragon coming up, Primarchs coming back, Emperor's descendants being found by an unnamed portion of the Imperium in order to fight the Void Dragon, etc etc...

Now here are some other things that are founded in reality: Matt Ward? Gone. Don't expect him to be writing any more Codices. His baby was 5th edition, and now that 5th edition is up, Ward is done. Board Members for GW? 3 of the old geezers gone. Company-wide changes. Everything since Tyranids? Made for 6th edition.

Speaking of 6th edition again, the main rulebook that comes out is supposed to be 'the book to rule all books'. It'll have ways to include Super heavies and rules for Fliers in regular games, and should errata a lot of rules in Apocalypse, past FAQ's, and past Codices to make it all fit together. It'll have updated stuff for Planet strike, Cities of Death, etc, perhaps even to make room for more expansions in the future.

Ugh. The person I heard this from is a good friend and reliable source, and the person *he* got this information from is an unnamed employee of a certain facet of our favorite gaming company that deals with items made out of a material that is notorious for melting if exposed to direct sunlight and heat. By the way, all those rule sets that Forgeworld has been making? They may suddenly find themselves approved for regular games.

I honestly feel tainted by a lot of this information. I'll be the first to say that so much of it is so unreal and so uncharacteristic for Games Workshop that it doesn't feel like it could happen at all. Moving the fluff forward? Having super heavies in a regular edition? Making Codex *supplements* exclusively through White Dwarf (and subsequently free a month later on their website like most White Dwarf stuff)? Knocking Space Marines down a notch?

But think about it. 5th edition has been the edition for the Imperium. Imperial Guard, Grey Knights, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, and of course Space Marines have all gotten Codices, and Black Templar and Dark Angels have been FAQ'd to match up. The only xenos forces we've seen have been Orks (which were technically still 4th edition), Tyranids, and Dark Eldar. And now Sisters of Battle are going to be covered. That leaves Tau, Orks (since they weren't really in 5th), Eldar, Chaos Marines, Necrons, and Chaos Daemons left to be covered. NONE of those are imperial forces, so it almost seems like they've been stacking the deck so that they can put a heavier focus on the xenos, which is a prime opportunity to advance the fluff. By advancing the fluff through xenos codices, they can then re-glorify the imperial forces by updating them further into 6th edition after they've figured all that stuff out.

Also, Chaos Marines have been a group of much attention. The Horus Heresy novels, Black Crusade RPG, and features as main villains in many a video game. They have a lot of new fluff that hasn't been explored before, and a lot of new material has been created that has kept them in the limelight, even if they haven't been on the gaming tables. They are Imperial Enemy No. 1. They are a very popular force. To have them suddenly take the spotlight in new fluff in a new edition only makes sense. A force as potent as the Chaos Legions, Legions of marines that number in the thousands, whose leader commands the last Black Fortress (one of the few great weapons against the C'Tan), is a force that can wreak proper havoc again, either in the form of a new Black Crusade, or in the form of a totally different type of war. Thus far, Chaos has seemed content to chill out in their warp homes within the Maelstrom and Eye of Terror, with the 13th Black Crusade being the last great push, and that was solely against the Imperium and anything else that happened to be in the way. There are many an enemy that Chaos can fight besides the waning Imperium, such as the Necron that they abhor for their desire to snuff out the sensation that Chaos enjoys.

There are a lot of other things that simply don't fit. We've already heard rumors about fliers, but the super heavies thing is a stretch. 'One book to rule them all' is a bit of a stretch, as that would cannibalize all of the books that have already been printed. Also, Forgeworld being brought into the fold doesn't make sense either. Though they've been pumping out a lot of new stuff, their business model is built as a boutique, and if they suddenly shift gears to mass-produce their stuff to satisfy the new net lists that come out, then that will completely undo their business model. On the other hand, Games Workshop has kicked metal straight out, so to get all their factories devoted to resin might end up increasing Forgeworld's production as well simply by volume of production.

Anyway, like I said. Salt, salt, salt. Not only am I hearing all of this second-hand, but it's difficult to weed out what's speculation on the speaker's part, and what he intended as rumor. I suppose we'll just see if he's right. The first hint would be Chaos Marines in March 2012 huh?

via ZARDRA
6th ed prediction's.
well it's been a while since i heard from some of my buddy's in gw and was quite surprised to hear from one or to that what i had predicted for 6th ed is also what they have been hearing on the jungle drums in gw hq, sooooo i thought i would share what i said back then ( 6 or 7 months ago ) again just before i begin this is not 100% set in stone but from what i have been i told i am meant to be very near the mark.

September should see the release of a rather special box set for Bloodbowl! including a plastic arena!

at some point next year there is meant to be a few drop downs from forge world to gw in the shape of a warhound titan or thunderhawk plus some other goodies,

then on to the new books, chaos will get a book for each of the 4 powers to expand there ranks, and there will be a set of book ( codexes ) to enable you to create your own individual legion for both loyal and traitor's. as well as a host of new models to create the new ranges as well.

with chaos getting more powerful there needs to be some thing else to level the playing field, soooooo fingers crossed there will be a couple of primarchss returning (Volken any one!!!! ) and it will be the year of the fliers! yes lots of flying machines.......... speaking of machines there is another race or 2 that could well be making an appearance, Mechanius!!!. well I’ll leave it at that, although i did here that ultramar is meant to brake away? oh well let me no what you think :):victory:Games Workshop (the people who have all your money) 

So take them as you will. Sounds a bit out there to me personally. This really kinda goes against the usual thing for GW. I would like to see the resurgence of the Xenos armies and the return of a powerful Traitor Marine force.

Next time the 11^th Foundation Of Vengeance.

Blood Runs, Anger Rises, Death Wakes, War Calls........... ............Waaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!!!!!!!

6th Edition? Already?

Thanks to the time change and insomnia I noticed a nice post on Bell of Lost souls.  Tastytaste at Blood of Kittens apparently has the inside scoop and is being rather vague.  It would seem that 6th edition may be just over a year away. 

This upsets me for a couple of reasons.  Firstly just when codex's are getting a much needed update they will be an edition behind while the Space Marines get s fresh one off the bat. This once again means Chaos and Eldar may get a new codex just at the tail end of an edition........again.  Of course this could mean a fresh new Eldar codex in the early stages of a new edition. 

You can read the article on BOls.  The gist of it is 6th edition by August 2012 with a new boxed starter set that does not include marines, guard or a xenos.  Well that kind of eliminates basically everybody.  Unless they mean to have Sisters of Battle and Traitor Marines in the Starter set,  Or even Grey Knights and Daemons.  A very interesting proposition.

It is way to early to tell and I am going to feel like a chump if I am just perpetuating a false rumor.  Well nest time I will be covering my countdown to Adepticon.  I have 2 lists and me running one of them is dependent on getting 1850 points of Dark Eldar painted in 2 weeks.  Should be interesting. 


Also this coming Saturday is my tournament at Evolution Games in Lansing Michigan.  The Test of Khaine starts at 11 am for registration and dice roll at noon.  Speaking of tournaments, I would like to send congrats out to CSVinton of Dark Future Games for taking 2nd in MI40Ks tournament at Get Your Game On in Ann Arbor.  He also cinched first place in the painting department. 

Until next time..........

Blood Runs, Anger Rises, Death Wakes, War Calls!!!!!!!!!!!